Thanks Prerna

During Uni days in Canada, I did more or less same you did. I was eating 4 to 6 eggs a day to continue health building and excercising hobby on. I am those guys who runs 4 to 6 Km early in the morning before any one is off the bed.
One day: my best mate(also Indian) developed heavy body rashes(white one). His body had blisters every where. We went to doctor immediately. My mate was ADVISED not to touch egg for some time else he may even die(situtation was that bad)

That was Last day I ever touched even eggs(I got scared). I AM VEGETARIAN AND HAVE LIVED AND WORKED IN USA, CANADA, INDIA AND NOW IN AUSTRALIA.

Interesting, I had few British friends(White one) and they all are 100% vegetarian. Slowly slowly I came to know that almost every 3rd British is 100% vegetarian. (ALSO I HAVE LOTS OF MUSLIM FRIENDS WHO ONLY EAT HALAL MEAT. Interesting I have few Brahmin(Pundit Jee) Friends too who can’t go to bed without eating meat and hard liquor.

Moral of story is: Do what your religious faith and body feel comfortable.
(I am Hindu, Vegetarian but those love all religions).

Diversity of people makes the world beautiful.

prerna … u did very good analysis about the vegetarianism …. but as of me i am a brahmin and i started to eat meat from my childhood days …at that time we exchange our lunch boxes (sometimes) ..so the first taste noticed by me without knowledge of my family traditional values …after that it converted whats the wrong ??? till i am taking occassionally monthly once or twice ..its healthy i think so to take beyond the limits …. i think if this universe is 100% vegetarian there is no place to live for human beings … logically illogical …. our mindset i mean to say our thinking should be vegetarian its healthy ……

Dear Prerna,

different geographical biospheres cause various ways of nutrition.

I agree that mass production of meat is beyond ethical behaviour and irrational; turbo- meat contains hormons and antibiotics. Since meat has become reasonable for many people it´s on their daily menue card, although experts suggest to not enjoy it more often than 1-2 times per week. The consumption has been related to falling prices caused by massproduction, infact, farming is a huge economy sector. Meat isn´t required for a healthy nutrition, but it is suggested to eat faunal and vegetable proteins. All you consume in high doses, anything biased is unhealthy. I´m feeling sick when I get to read that a human eats 6 eggs in a day.
Overweight, diseases of civilisation exist among vegetarians and non-vegetarians.
Beef, pork, lamb, chicken, turkey to be considered, are sustainable products, however fish stock is more and more shrinking initiated by suggestions for a healthy nutrition, fishfood lovers, by development of different food habits caused by a changing life style in a growing population.
Quantities in the USA used to be always bigger than in any other country in the world. I don´t recognise any kind of good food culture that arises from America. A steak has x-large size, the same x-large size like its eater who stuffs his stomage with a ginormous 500g steak.
Would everybody have to slaughter the animal he relishes later, we had certainly 95% vegetarians in the world. Many people don´t even realize what they eat, a filet doesn´t look like like a living creature, hence hardly one feels a kind of loathing for it – reservations don´t occur.
Most of the cultures in world have enjoyed meat from the very beginning of their existence, it´s been a part of nature and our food chain. In Italy, Greece, Spain, Scandinavian countries, people enjoy meat and fish. Mediterranian nutrition is one of the most healthy, as a consequence thereof a low rate of cardiovascular diseases or diabetes. (oiliv oil, wine, fish, fresh vegetables, fruits, pasta, rice, dairy products, cereal products)
I admit, I love to enjoy a delicious piece of meat (turkey or chicken) but it would not cover more than 25 % of my plate, side dishes like vegetables or salad, carbohydrates are also a part of a complete and balanced menue.
There´s another factor we have to consider when thinking about cows and bulls. In some countries Cows/bulls cause 1/5 of the greenhouse gas emission.
1 kg methane effects 23 times stronger a warming of the atmosphere than the same amount of Carbon dioxide. Methane concentration has increased sixfold past 50 years.
If you want to do something good for your health and a good climate, reduce beef!

Enjoy your meal!
Naddu

Dear Aussie

do you know the power of the agriculture lobby? Who would want a research on this at all in Australia or USA? The food industry?
To me it looks plausible when I read that “emission from burping cow is higher than family car”
Methane is a relatively potent greenhouse gas with a high global warming potential of 72 (averaged over 20 years) or 25 (averaged over 100 years). Methane in the atmosphere is eventually oxidized, producing carbon dioxide and water. As a result, methane in the atmosphere has a half life of seven years (if no methane were added, then every seven years, the amount of methane would halve).
The abundance of methane in the Earth’s atmosphere in 1998 was 1745 parts per billion, up from 700 ppb in 1750. In the same time period, CO2 increased from 278 to 365 parts per million. The radiative forcing effect due to this increase in methane abundance is about one-third of that of the CO2 increase. In addition, there is a large, but unknown, amount of methane in methane clathrates in the ocean floors. The Earth’s crust contains huge amounts of methane. Large amounts of methane are produced anaerobically by methanogenesis. Other sources include mud volcanoes, which are connected with deep geological faults, and livestock, primarily cows.
There´s hardly a natural process of growth in modern agriculture. Ever heard anything about overfertilization?
An oversized house that uses intelligent heating systems to warm up water or the rooms causes less emission.
Aussie, when you use your heating system you cause co2 emission, when you use your computer, tv set, fridge, or a light you do the same. The energy balance can be improved by conscious usage and economic electronics…or by jogging lol
The size of a house isn´t related to the carelessness of the owner regarding environment.
The inhabitant´s attitude and consciousness matters!
Only today, when I drove back home from work, an elder female driver in front of me threw her tissue and a plastic foil out of the window of her car, infact, I felt forced to honk, believe me, I normally don´t do it, I couldn´t hold back myself and signaled protest!
Would all people behave this way, we couldn´t find our roads anymore.

Have a great day ahead and enjoy your jogging!
I managed my 6 kms either today.
Warm greetings,
Naddu

Naddu wrote: “An oversized house that uses intelligent heating systems to warm up water or the rooms causes less emission”.
(Oversize houses is basic trend around the world).

1. How many people get Thermal Modeling done for their house before or during constructions. Energy Saving to be made are HUGE by doing so. but none of us do that.

2) Intelligent heating is a relative word. I love numbers(% of energy change or actual . Otherwise, Intelligent, Efficient, Very Powerful are have no meaning).

3. Methane(Natural Gas) Should we thank using it. Till 1970 We burning buring it in AIR(Most refineries). At least now we are using it. IT IS A CLEAN FUEL.(It emits lowest level of NOx. and CO2).

3. TECHNOLOGICAL SOLUTIONS ARE THE ANSWER. WORLD IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE. WE JUST NEEED TO KEEP TRYING TO MAKE IT BETTER & SAFER AND GREENER.

I never PROVOKED anyone. You can NEVER EVER MAKE ME ANGRY, NO ONE.

(I work on Solar Thermal Power Project in Remote Part of Australia, so all these figures which are talking, I probably I learnt few. Still got long way to go)

I have spent some time thinking about this issue (i.e. the morality of meat-eating).
Some observations:
1. This is by far the most lucid blog/article I have read on the subject. Good job . I liked the clean separation of beliefs and facts, its a sign of clear thinking.
2. A point that may be potentially added in the belief section is the following: the method of killing matters because some forms of killing are more painful than others. For this reason, I think it okay to eat fish, but not okay to eat Lobster (I have a no-crustacean policy, since they are boiled alive).
3. Potential addition to the Facts section: Eating meat has many health advantages (I grew up a vegetarian, yet started eating meat for this reason, more than any other. When I started eating meat, I remember the sensation of tasting “flesh” very clearly.) The main advantage is the high protein content. It is questionable at worst and unclear at best whether vegetarian alternatives adequately compensate this requirement.

Is overpopulation related to vegetarianism?
Is sex a way to compensate an instinctive lust for flesh?

Please no offence, it´s a humorous thought only… stimulated by “laughter” lol

Diversity is useful and helps to survive!

Naddu

I am a non-veg alike the old you who always doubted whether I am doing this right.
At times I hate it also.
Sometimes I like them as well.
But I admire the way you have wrote it, without any bias or hard stance.
Now really I think I also can give up non-veg food. Only problem is that I am in Europe where getting non-veg food is kind of luxury.
So now I cook food. Non-veg is like once in a month or so.
And I am cutting short of milk as well.

Dear Naddu

I LIKED WHAT YOU WROTE. It ,made me laugh and I think I needed that.

Hi,

We are killing animals prematurely. Yes. But, we are killing plants prematurely. Plants got life too!
We make the animals suffer when we kill them. How do you plants do not suffer when we cut them and eat it?
So, maybe we should eat only those things that are dropped off plants…!!!

Anything taken in moderation is fine… Do not go to extremes!!

Dear Naddu,
Sex is a not a way to compenste for an instinctive lust for flesh. Sex is the purest form of love between man and woman. It is the beginning of love between them. Also there is no instinctive lust for flesh that humans feel.
It is just that man started eating meat because cultivation was discovered later.. Also the yummiest and most popular non-vegetarian food is the non-fleshy sea-food. Like Oysters. Oh just the taste of the ocean bursting into the mouth.Take Care.love ankur

Dear Ankur,

Oysters? The yummiest and most popular non-vegetarian food among students?
Are you the son of a sheikh or do you help out at the fishmarket? Have I missed a development? Do students need their daily aphrodesiac nowadays? ha ha a good one!
A fresh oyster is a living organism, in an ideal case it has a taste of the sea, but what´s so yummy in savouring a wobbly fishy something? If you cherrish, enjoy it!

Sex is not the begin of love between a man and a woman. Do you sleep with anybody to get loved, or do you sleep with somebody because you love him/her?
In my eyes sex is a way of physical communication between a man and a woman.
A physical language, an expression of of love, closeness and commitment.
Ankur, may I ask you something?
When sex is the purest form of love ,why is prostitution such a big market?

Greetings, enjoy your studies!
Naddu

A very nice post on vegetarianism. I like the facts and beliefs that you’ve pointed.

A person’s preference for certain types of food is his personal choice. I don’t care whether a person is a veg, a non-veg or a vegan; whether he is led by religious rules or mere personal choice. But I do hate people criticizing others’ food preferences.

I’m a non-vegetarian, but my meat intake is quite less. In my family, meat is a “Sunday” dish, or mostly reserved for special occasions. I can’t handle eating meat every other day like most meat lovers. Moreover the concept of non-veg in India means mainly chicken, goat’s meat, fish & eggs (now that lies on the borderline actually). I eat beef only because they make kebabs from beef. Secondly, meat is always a complementary dish. People eat meat along with rice/roti, dal and/or vegetables; unlike just eating a hamburger for dinner or lunch.

Thirdly, the Indian poultry industry is not as mechanized as the US ones. True that poultry are kept and transported in terrible conditions. But the locally bred poultry (i.e. chickens bred by locals) are brought up in more humane conditions. We mostly buy those chickens because they’re tastier & healthier (commercially bred “Broiler” chickens are often given medications to increase meat & egg production whereas the locally bred poultry grow on natural food. A concept similar to chemical fertilizers & organic manure in case of crops).

Next, while I’m against poaching & killing of animals like tigers, lions etc; even rabbits & foxes for fur; I don’t feel the same sympathy for chickens & goats. One can say, while tigers & elephants face extinction, chickens will never become extinct. They’re not beauties and seem to be made solely as a source of food for humans. Same goes for fish & goats. While I’m against the killing of whales for blubber, I don’t mind eating a Hilsa or a Pomfret.

In the end, as for pain & suffering, I know the animal I’m eating grew up on natural food, lived a good, healthy life & was killed instantly so didn’t feel much pain. So I relish my occasional dish of meat without any guilty conscience. The occasional meat diet is only because I prefer eating vegetables more often, they’re healthy and better suited to the body in a hot tropical Indian climate. But meat is also healthy and nutritious.

Dear Ankur,

there are a few reasons for terrorism. Let me try to elaborate what I know about it.
A personal poverty isn´t primarily a motive for terrorists in the Near East. Much more decisive than a critical economical situation or lacking education level of the violent culprits are political framework conditions and an over many years experienced feeling of humiliation and frustration.
This theory is a result of an analysis about relations between education, poverty, political violence and Terrorism published by the National Bureau of Economic Research, Cambridge, Massachusetts.
The authors of the trial, Professor Alan Krueger and Jitka Maleckova, analysed data of 129 Lebanese Hisbollah militias who died in paramilitary actions against Israel in the years 1982 to 1994.
The research showed, that there´s isn´t a significant relation between low education, poverty and the possibility to become a matyr of the Hezbollah. Iliterates are not really capable of planning, but they are instruments of the suspected masterminds.
To keep a facade of integrated and reputative humans, to stay alive, these masterminds prefer to send their rank and file.
Poverty can be a cause for a national terrorism, incase a minority of better situated tries to improve the economical situation for the inhabitants by terrorism. Of course, this doesn´t proof the activities of terrorists in richer countries like Spain and Ireland.
The quintessence is that the feeling of humiliation, indignity is accountable for the tendence to organise terroristic coalescences.
(”Education, Poverty, Political Violence and Terrorism: Is there a Causal Connecton?” published in the Working Paper (w9074) of the National Bureau of Economic Reasearch)

greetings,
Naddu

Excellent Blog

do animals have souls and will go to heaven, how about the vegetables they also are living things, is it written in the bible not to eat meat, i guess god created all of these to provide us from our everyday living….

hai prerna,
i read u.but where will d animals gow come about ,if they r not killed.agter all 2 balance d ecosystem.v have 2 dosome thing.here in india,people starve for their own food.how come about the animals then???.it may be ur personal opinion

this is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. i am a meat eater and nothing is going to stop me. i wonder why id it that nobody gets mails from meat eater urging vegs to quit their life style. eating meat or vegetables is a personal choice nothing to do with morality.

Respected,
Pink of health is expected before the Almighty.
I have gone through the article and tempted to write only that you should approach some JAIN monk-some time but within this human life to understand more deeply what you already have understood !
By the way, Jainism is a only religeon which pray, practise, promote and protect the fundamental principals and rules of mother nature that is non violence and universal forgivness.
“Do Good, BeGood & Keep Samata”
Life is a GAme of Chance & Choice ”
Dr.D.C.Mehta from India
Always-”YouRsmE”-In, Around & Beyond !

Hello Prena Gupta
Thank u for e. mail
I am sorry that i can not speak or write English very well, because I have been in Norway since 1971. Language of Norway is Norwegian. I am journalist of Urdu(chief editor of NGO Times NORWAY),Så I can write in urdu but i am sure that you can not read it. I am travelling to Pakistan on Saturda 21 March.
About to eat meat is that there is no enoug meat in world,that every body can eat meat, så it is nice of then who do not eat meat,we must have respect for those. But one who will eat meat the others must not iturupt it. I appreciate your mother tha she allowed you to eat meat. It is best that we have respect of each other. Hindus must not be angry when the muslims slaughter their own cow, and muslims and hinus shuld not hurt feelings of each other.
With Best best wishes and regard.
Mohammed Riaz Gondal

prernaji
i read whole matter can u focus some practices which r used in this industry
plz try to write and send
urs
jjitanshu

Interesting, as always.

My (faulty) rememberance of Shaw’ “An Intelligent Woman’s Guide to Socialism ….” contains a pertinent observation that the rich people must work hard to exercise and shed all the excess fat etc. and become as fit as the poor, who have to work hard for a living anyway and so don’t accumulate fat.

Moral: What is all our posturing about vegetarianism (or vegan, a stronger variety) worth before say, the poor Masai who only eat meat and drink the blood of animals they kill ? Mahendra Nath Dutta (Swami Vivekananda’s brother) saw people in Siberia killing horses and drinking their blood from the jugular veins in winter to keep warm.

Don;t forget Mark Twain’s observations in An Innocent Abroad about Jagadish Bose’s experiments on plant feelings: “…or even the inanimate is alive”. There is a way some yogis avoided this dilemma by recommending that such a person (yogi for example) who is desirous of not causing pain to any living being, should collect only the produce from unsown plants (i.e. seeds, fruits which are scattered on the ground in the jungle, fallow land etc.) and eat them. Acharanga Sutra, a prime text of the Jains, has detailed instructions about what a Jain man and a woman should eat, how they should beg even and so on. They were very concerned about Ahimsa. Makes for compelling reading but I wonder how far it can be practised today.

So ? The dilemma remains. That is why life is so interesting — it is full of dilemmas. As long as you realise that “we are all in the same boat, brother” we feel one with all humanity, indeed with all living beings.

Regards,

Asoke

interesting enough as I too practice living a vegetarian life. But please if you are going to commit to this life style you must and should quit with the dairy and purchasing of leather, its in some since makes you a hypocrite if you know what i mean. take care, feel free to reply.

Nice topics. On the topic of Vegetarianism we should have a chat somtime.
What is your take on – some parts of the world – where the animal is consumed alive -
i think that is the worst.

correction*
millions of people don´t even have the choice between vegetarian and non-vegetarian nutrition*

I´m concerned about the disadvantaged, not about the food on my plate!

I´m happy to enjoy my daily food whatsoever I´m able to afford, I´m aware it is much more than others would ever dream of.

regards,
Naddu

hi prerna,

It was nice to receive your messages
all are very nice and informatic and touches the heart

thanks for sending

hv a good day
and tk cr

Dear Jyoti

“I don’t agree even 1% what you have written”. I am vegetarian my self. But I have suffered badly once when working in Hill Area. Only thing available there was Chicken.(Veg takes weeks to reach there). My performance suffered badly as I was getting too much tired without proper food.

“I WILL SAY: EAT AS PER LOCAL SITUATION AND YOUR OWN RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, BUT THERE IS NOTHING WRONG IN EATING MEAT”. THERE IS NO MORALITY IS BEING VEG OR NON_VEG.

(Helping some one in need is High Moral).

FOR MILLIONS OF YEARS HUMAN BEINGS HAVE CONSUMED MEAT.

I am not ankur. There are many false comments under ankur. Please don’t reply to them.

Well said IBTIHAL ISMAIL ……………….
I was about to write what you have written………… These people wont understand that the creator created this universe and made man to take care of it and he made man above everything. They think only animals get pain when they are slaughtered they don’t know that even plants and trees bleed when they are chopped. If man doesn’t eat some of the animals which the creator has permitted, than there will be imbalance in this world. For instance Rajasthan in India were people don’t eat meat hasn’t got the worlds highest life expectancy. I think its obvious its some other meat eating nations like Australia, Arab or Europe but for sure its not India. Look at the animals that rely on vegetables like cow, elephant, buffalo and bla bla… do you think they look as healthy as Cheetah, Tiger or Lion which eat meat:-).
Tell these idiots who emphasize to eat veggies to eat stones and crushed rocks because they don’t have life and neither do they feel pain, where as veggies and animals are living beings..
What happens is bad company corrupts good…. So stay away from those idiots who believe non sense like worshiping cows and monkeys.
May be they visit these hare Rama hare Krishna where they drink cows milk and eat veggies which has life and come and try to brainwash westerners who are vulnerable to all these eastern beliefs because of their higher education which has made them to go away from the truth and follow some grandmas myths and theology.

@IBTIHAL ISMAIL — I don’t stop eating plants because I don’t believe plants are conscious beings.

@Ramanujam — I am not going to get into an idiotic debate, but i will say that I am personally much stronger and healthier since i have stopped eating meat, and my mind is also clearer.

Prerna

You nailed it down to the point. “Morality & advices are and comes from those who have enough to feed themselves and other dependents or have the luxuries of life.”

A common person is busy in “Daily Struggle of Life”. He(she) have hardly any chance of being immoral or preaching morality.

(Most immoral acts now a days are condcuted by spoiled head(Filty Rich) or spoiled people. Better known BRATS.

(One of the gentleman here on this forum it self has used F*** and M**F** words for others, has talked and used all short of dirty language). However he continue to PREACH OTHERS ON DAILY BASIS HERE.

(Where is morality when one use F * & M** F** words for others in public forum and preach morality to others at the same time:).

I am a Brahmin and as against general brahmin religious belief eat nonveg, not a regular but a couple of days per week kind of eater. In my childhood I asked this question to my father (a very pious man in the traditional sense and also philosophically analytical in modern ways) that we are brahmins and yet we are nonveg? We are allowed to was his response and the reason being that it is cold in Kashmir and during the winter time no vegetation can be cultivated and hence the nonveg scenario. But he also added that we, Kashmiri Brahmins, are allowed only goat meat (mutton) and that only. In the strict sense, we are not supposed to eat even onions, tomatoes etc. And the reason being that these and the other kind of flesh makes you TAMSIC (agressive, hot tempered etc) and according to our knowledgeable books we are supposed to shun those bad traits. YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT, they say and I believe that.

Now comes my points as to my response to you blog Prerna (it means inpiration and not encouragement as somebody wrote, there is a difference between the two although a little nuanced one, granted)

1. Through times the human beings have adapted to circumstances in order to survive e.g. as the Kashnmiris did in Kashmir. But in modern times where everything is available everywhere (more or less) we have the choice to eat whatever we feel like. The same rule applies for the people living in the northern hemisphere much above India. They get vegetables (imported) all year round despite the subzero temperatures in the winter time. So they have a choice too.

2. The matter of the fact is that our bodies need many different kinds of nutrients and we get all that in our food. Nonveg food is a excellent protein supplier. One has to eat a lot of paneer (Indian cottage cheese) and or drink lot of Daal in order to compensate for the loss of moderate helpings of nonveg yummies. So make your choice. And the choice comes from your inner voice which again, I believe comes from that fact of our bodys needs.

3. As I say >you can have opinions in religion and politics but the logic is a never ending truth seeking endevour<. Fortunately or unfortunately the modern science has made available so much of literature on health that we can be proactive in taking care of our health. If we are able to supply the right amount of Macro as well as micro nutrients to our bodies then we can lead a healthy life. And that is the reason that the experts predict that the next generation will see maximum number of centurions. So that was the logic part. The religious part is to be decided by everybody for themselves and I have no comments on that.

Sorry, kind of became a long response. I have some other thoughts and facts to add to if you want.

A longer life for vegetarians?
The battle has long been waged, and will certainly continue in spite of this study. Are humans designed/evolved to eat everything and at risk of malnutrition as vegetarians? Or is vegetarianism the healthy and ethical choice? The most impressive data arises from a study of 1904 vegetarians over 21 years by the German Cancer Research Center (Deutsche Krebsforschungszentrum). The study’s shocking results: vegetarian men reduced their risk of early death by 50%! Women vegetarians benefit from a 30% reduction in mortality.

Long-term Study of Vegetarians
The participants of the the German Cancer Research Center study included 60 vegans (no animal products consumed), 1165 vegetarians (eating eggs, milk but no meat) with the remainder described as “moderate” vegetarians who occasionally ate fish or meat. The health of these study participants was compared with the average German population. Living longer seems not to be exclusively related to eating meat, though, as the results for moderate vegetarians was not statistically different from those for vegan or strict vegetarian diets.

To the argument that it is not vegetarianism but a general interest in a healthier lifestyle which leads to such notable results, scientists reply with evidence that the majority of vegetarians do not cite health reasons for their lifestyle, but make their choice based on ethical commitment, environmental concerns or simply personal taste.

Vegetarians and Malnutrition
Research by a team led by Professor Ibrahim Elmadfa at the University of Vienna found a much better than average intake of Vitamin C, Carotinoides, Folic acid, fiber and unsaturated fats. Where shortcomings may arise is for Vitamin B12, calcium und Vitamin D in a vegan diet. Astoundingly, however, study participants did not suffer from diseases, such as osteoporosis, typically related to inadequate intakes of these micro-nutrients.

Dear Prerna,

you find conscious and unconcious human beings in all fields in life, in all countries.
Basically, we all know what is good, what is bad in a life. In my belief it is human to respect and tolerate each other. Different environmental, cultural life-circumstances lead to different behaviour, taste and favor of humans.
Only the one who has the choice to think about morality will be able to operate double standards.

greetings,
Naddu

Islamic Way of Slaughtering Animals looks Cruel

Dr. Zakir Naik

Q: Why do Muslims slaughter the animal in a cruel manner by torturing it and slowly and painfully killing it?

A: The Islamic method of slaughtering animals, known as ‘Zabiha’ has been the object of much criticism from a large number of people.

One may consider the following points, which prove that the Islamic method of ‘Zabiha’ is not only humane but also scientifically the best:

1. Islamic method of slaughtering animal

‘Zakkaytum’ is a verb derived from the root word ‘Zakaah’ (to purify). Its infinitive is ‘Tazkiyah’, which means purification. The Islamic mode of slaughtering an animal requires the following conditions to be met:

a. The animal should be slaughtered with a sharp object (knife)

The animal has to be slaughtered with a sharp object (knife) and in a fast way so that the pain of slaughter is minimised.

b. Cut wind pipe, throat and vessels of neck

‘Zabiha’ is an Arabic word which means ‘slaughtered’. The ‘slaughtering’ is to be done by cutting the throat, windpipe and the blood vessels in the neck causing the animal’s death, but without cutting the spinal cord.

c. Blood should be drained

The blood has to be drained completely before the head is removed. The purpose is to drain out most of the blood, which would otherwise serve as a good culture medium for micro organisms. Hence, for this purpose, the spinal cord must not be cut, otherwise the nerve fibers to the heart would be damaged during the process causing cardiac arrest, resulting in stagnation of the blood in the blood vessels.

2. Blood is a good medium for germs and bacteria

Blood is a good medium for germs, bacteria, toxins, etc. Therefore the Muslim way of slaughtering is more hygienic as most of the blood containing germs, bacteria, toxins, etc. that are the cause of several diseases are eliminated.

3. Meat remains fresh for a longer time

Meat slaughtered by Islamic way remains fresh for a longer time due to deficiency of blood in the meat as compared to other methods of slaughtering.

4. Animal does not feel pain

The swift cutting of vessels of the neck disconnects the flow of blood to the nerve of the brain responsible for pain. Thus the animal does not feel pain. While dying, the animal appears to struggle, writhe, shake and kick, not due to pain, but due to the contraction and relaxation of the muscles deficient in blood and due to the flow of blood out of the body.
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Non-Vegetarian Food makes Muslim Violent !

Q: Science tells us that whatever one eats has an effect on one’s behaviour. Why does then Islam allow Muslims to eat non-vegetarian food, since eating of animals could make a person violent?

A: 1. Only eating of herbivorous animals is allowed by Islam. I agree that, what a person eats has an effect on his behaviour. This is one of the reasons why Islam prohibits the eating of carnivorous animals like lions, tigers, leopards, etc. who are violent and ferocious. The consumption of the meat of such animals would probably make a person violent and ferocious. Islam only allows the eating of herbivorous animals like goats, cattle, sheep, etc. that are peaceful and docile. We Muslims eat peaceful and docile animals because we are peace loving and non-violent people.

2. The Qur’an says Prophet prohibits what is bad

The Qur’an says: “The Prophet commands them what is just and prohibits what is evil. He allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them what is bad (and impure),” [Al-A’raf 7: 157]

“So take what the Messenger assigns to you and deny yourselves that which he withholds from you.” [Al-Hashr 59: 7]

For a Muslim, the Prophet’s statement is sufficient to convince him that Allah does not wish humans to eat some kinds of meat while allowing some other kinds.

3. Hadith prohibiting eating of carnivorous animals

According to various authentic Ahaadith narrated in Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim including hadith narrated by Ibn Abbas in Sahih Muslim, Book of hunting and slaughter, Hadith No. 4752 and Sunan Ibn-i-Majah chapter 13 Hadith no. 3232 to 3234, the Holy Prophet (Pbuh) prohibited the eating of:

(i) Wild animals with canine teeth, i.e. meat eating carnivorous animals. These are animals belonging to the cat families such as lions, tigers, cats, dogs, wolfs, hyenas, etc.

(ii) Certain rodents like mice, rats, rabbits with claws, etc.

(iii) Certain reptiles like snakes, alligators, etc.

(iv) Birds of prey with talons or claws, like vultures, eagle, crows, owl, etc.

( The author heads Islamic Research Foundation, Mumbai. Email: islam@irf.net, http://www.irf.net)

@ your A: Then when will you give your body and become my soul mate ?

Oh!
What I concluded is that your observation is premature. Plants are also living thing, because they breath and grow and reproduce.

With best regards

Shahid Mahmood

Very good thinking Prema. Congrats on turning Vegetarian. Your analysis is definitely well thought out.

Regards,

K.RAVISHANKAR

u talk sense…kp it up…

Thanks

Think over universe balancing

With love
Praful oza

Sorry, you are mistook. If need proper answer go thro’ the dvd of Dr. Zakir Naik topic about non-vegetarian food permited or prohibited.

Thanks & Regards

You must thnx to god that he forgave you but eventually you left to eat.

but I am pure veg from the ‘0′ day of ma life.

thnx

Thanks for a good lesson.
AMIT

Hi Prerna,

Good write-up but I dont think i will stop eating chicken because i love making it and that’s the only thing i know to cook well…. so….

hi,miss prerna gupta,,
this artical bout vegetarian thingy was really good,me really enjoyed it,,
cheers,
god bless,
gazz

Dear Prerna,
Greetings from Malaysia. I read your article which was sent to me with interest. Hhmm…your writing on the vegetarianism is good but there are few thoughts that has run into my mind.

You wrote about killing and feelings about morality etc… You see, the understanding on killing and morality is relative.

I am working in hospitality industry for more than 20 years. F&B is my bread and butter. I feed an average of 90,000 people per annum. Just multiple for 20 years and see. So, I think I’m qualified to give some comments on the vegetarian people that I’ve experienced.

In my experience, the most difficult people to feed are the teachers and vegetarian. Teachers, because they participate in passive communication. They only teach and instruct what they think is best and never will they allow any comments from the students. We can make all kind of presentation about the food. They will not acknowledge and only expect us to deliver what they want even though they are not form the hospitality industry. They are really passive and less rational.

Vegetarian people are another set of people who are very difficult. They will get upset, angry and even use abusive language when they realise that a non-vegetarian food is placed next to the vegetatian food. In Malaysia, most Indian vegetarian people feel that they are saint when they are vegetarian. They make us feel as though they are 1st class and that the meat eater are 3rd class. The vegetarian people will always look down on the non-vegetarian. This is my experience. I experienced it from almost everyone that I have served. Where does the killing and morality stands?

When you ask a vegetarian person on why he/she is vegetarian. Their answer will be that vegetarian is good, can live a healthy life etc… The answers are for question that you ask when it begins with WHAT. They cannot simply give an answer. For me, vegetarianism is sacrifice and nothing more than that; abstinence! This is where killing and morality will give meaning!

Lewis Raaj
Malaysia

Dear Prerna the crusader

What makes you think that plants dont feel pain when you cut them down for your vegetarian meals. Is it just beacause they are mute and dont bleed.

It was our own great scientist Prof. CV Raman who proved that the pulse rate of a tree or plant goes up when any one or anything goes near them. Just because they dont cry or call out for help and can not move or thrash around, dont think they are non living things.

And your great vegeterian miracle food, curd or Yogurt, ever looked at it through a microscope??? The teeming single cell organisms called bacteria. Or when you jump around in a puddle of rain water, the millions of amoeba which die. The dont feel pain too.

So please keep your sanctimonious beliefs to yourself and survive and let others live at thier terms and beliefs. Or else one will live only on love and air ( that too teeming with millions of single cell organisms.

Cheers ………..

Prerna ji
I have come an article in Science (can send you the refernce) in that non vegetarianism and vegetarianism were compared in terms of climtae change issues or more correctly carbon emissions. It is an interesting article. I am also a vegetarian whoc was raised (almost) a vegetarian but it was not an inhibition not to eat meat, so i must have eaten lots of meat but 14 years back i turned vegetarian and have survived quite well as that. May be i shall write a bit more this later.
I still have to read your blog again.
Cheers!
Rajesh

Thanks for ur mail

It makes me to think lot about eating meat.

But torturing animals are not even acceptable

It we are not taking meat, how the ecology will balance ?

regards

nandhu.

Hi,

It was really great message. Will try to become vegetarian.

Regards,
Sushil

i love meat. especially chicken and pork…..

Dear Prerna Gupta,

This is very interesting and good change in your life.

I am also a pure vegetarian. Keep it up.

bye,
Raghunandan Preetham.K

TKS PRERNA GUPTA FOR YOUR LOVELY MSG.

SHYAM

Thanks for this Great Article
I too have a more or less same experience and turned to be strict vegiterian since 2004

Dear Prerna,

Let me first welcome you to the fold of ‘yaari friedship’. I am happy to have you as one of my friends and would love to interact with you on various issues. I trust our interactions would be quite interesting and educational for each other.

Well, as regard to your personal views and decision to revert to vegetarianism, I fully respect your individual reasons for that. But, at the same time I firmly believe that God has made humans OMNIVOROUS and that’s why he has given us a set of ‘canine teeth’ to be carnivorous as well as herbivorous as and when we want, unlike certain animals, such as goat and cow which are totally ‘herbivorous’ or lion & dog which are carnivorous. In nutshell they do not have the alternate options of diet. Hence, on this belief and scientific evidence I am still a omnivorous and would like to continue like that during rest of my life, unless I am medically advised not to consume meat due to any specific reason which might endanger my health.

This earth and every thing in it has been laid down by Almighty for the benefit of mankind. But, it is to be properly and sensibly used. There is a certain age of animals before which they should not be slaughtered. So, if that rule is followed in letter and spirit then you are letting that animal live till that specific age. Moreover, if the animals (whose meat is being consumed) are not timely slaughtered then their population would outgrow to a level which might become a grave problem in feeding them.

I hope you would agree with me upto some extent if not fully.

Look after your self and be happy.
Regards,
TAJ

I have just read ‘The Morality of Vegetarianism’ and I am pretty happy to know that you had become a pure vegetarian, for whatever reasons.

You had tried to analyse the need for Vegetarianism or Non-Vegetarianism, on the basis of certain beliefs that you had listed along with certain facts referred by you to justify the beliefs.

You had also raised a question, if Flesh could be eaten, incase the beliefs that you had mentioned get eliminated.

You had mentioned about your desire to continue using leather products apart from consuming Dairy products, the first one for status and the second one for health.

I am pretty happy that you had practised Vegetarianism, whenever you had visited India. India is considered to be the Spiritual Head Quarters of the World. Though there are more non vegetarians in India, you could think of being a vegetarian whenever you visited India, a real compliment to the INDIAN Culture.

As I HAD MENTIONED AT THE BEGINING OF MY REPLY, I am personally very happy to know that a Non-Vegetarian like you could change your food habits to become a Vegetarian.

My desire is that almost the entire human population should avide taking flesh for food, in the interest of granting the right to live, not only to the human race, but to all livingbeings. This gesture would justify the speciality of the Humanbeings as not only an intelligent but also a fair livingbeing.

With Warm Regards,
M.RavichandraN.

Dear prerna,

Thanks a lot for this message.
Especially because Just recenly only I stopped eating all types of meat even egg and trying to be a pure vegetarian.Thanks to the ISCON association that helped me change my mind.I knew the benifits of being a vegitarian plus the high morality behind this.In fact my english is not very good as you see, so I am not able to explain how much useful your write up is and I forward this to all my net friends with a heading ”worth reading to change attitude”. if any one could change their mind,we have reason to be happy about it.
Thanks prerna.
keep sending something useful like this always.

Regards,

Vasudevan Chembra,
AbuDhabi.

Hi Prerna,

I have been reading your mails and really appreciate and enjoys them

How could you express your view in such a wonderful and thought process.

I really envy ut, since even if i want to express like this, the vocalubary should be that commanding. I would oblized if you could guide me how to learn this.

Regards,

Avinash

dear MR Gupta,
I think UR HINDU religion has some problems.
1-setting on fire the living muslims and christians and other minorities in india is not sin and not immortal for u.its shame .
2-u do pray in front of hand made stones by cutting them and shaping them by ur own hands.a foolish thing that s.one pray in front of their own creation.in this way u people also destroy environment by digging the stones for ur to shape ur gods .
3-u do people kill the kashmiris daily and yet feel no annoyance.cz it limits ur said wills and some odd mentation.
4-u do eat fruits and vegetables that has been made for animals and in this way omit their rights to live.u moms even lay milk to nourish u people to get old an din this way decompose her body to further live a healthy life.
there are so many things to say in counter.
bye,
zameer

i will like to say only this —live and let everybody live

Hi Prerana,

It is good to be a vegetarian. My grand children in US always ask me and mymy daughte (their mother) why it is good to be vegetarian. I am forwarding ur mail to my little grand daughter of 8 years. You have written very logically.

SM Katti
Belgaum
Karnataka, INDIA.

o hello mahatma gandhi of modern world.wats d explanation of you eating hell amount of non veg n now returning to veg world n doing all this shit kinda lecture stuff.do u knw the population of chicken is more than human beings in world.if animals are left all alone then where will be the space left to live on earth.n tell me if every1 turns veg, wat will you eat.keep ur shit idelogy with yours.u turned veg ok then dance go n have party.stop mailing n posting such shit stuff n why d hell r u mailing me.dnt send such crappy material to me.if u r a proud US citizen then first ask ur government to show some mercy to the people from middle east n then think of animals.cant treat humans as humans n thinking of animals.

Hi Prema Gupta,
Thanks for sharing your practical thought with others. Best wishes!!
You will agree that everyone is in the process of evolution and your transition of principles is strongly founded and is and will be good for you and the society at large. Best wishes. Human beings are not designed as meat eaters as is clear fropm their physical structure. The premitive human beings would have tried it in perversion and would have become a part of the civilization. Intellectuals conciously change for good. Ahimsa is a virtue and it also averts harmful elements entering the system. May I tell you , I am pure vegitarian for past over 35 years and managing with a single meal and just tea twice a day besides fruits as and when available. It is very comfortable and I work hard every day though not necessary for my livelihood. I am living alone unmarried and all household jobs are carried out on my own. Difficulties are there as there is no body to share life with! Spiritual orientation keeps me almost fit and disciplined in life.
I would advice you to practice meditation if not in. Brahmakumaris is a testified path for quick results; follow them.
With love,

Dear Prerna,

I don’t know how my address was included in your distribution list, but your logic has certainly been a prerna for me to think of becoming a vegetarian. Great stuff !

Amit

It’s very good to read your email.

You may also like to add following:

When one dies, what do we do.??

We normally incinerate or bury a dead body.

When we eat meat one of the things to think off

Is that we are using our stomach to put the dead body in form of

Meat and creating a burial ground within our stomach.

Thanking You

Best Regards

Ashok Jain

Hi Prerana,
My name is Rupesh. I am a Msc Student. Even i am a strict Vegetarian.
I really like your this blog. Good One……

Dear friend,

Good article. I also have the same experience in life. Please continue writing.

Regards
Harikumar.N

HI Prerna,

Your experiences and views about being a Non-vegetarian and then converting into a pure Vegetarian was very interesting. Even I have taken the similar path.. Initially being a hardcore Non-vegetarian and now understanding that we humans are born as vegetarians only. I totally agree to you. Please provide many more such interesting experience

Regards
Chakra

Dear Prerna,
Thanks for raising again a contemporary issue. This argument is not going to be over like another argument which continues between coffee and toffee……..! Eating meat is not the issue only related to the other living organisms’ great sufferings and humiliation throughout their lives but also is the concern of emission of green house gas, which has brought the whole world at the verge of its extinction causing global warming. You might be aware of the Mayan Community and their calender which bears no date beyond 21 December, 2012. What does it signify? Is the day going to be the last day of our world? If it is so then we will ourselves be responsible for our extinction. Let me make it clear. You are by birth a US citizen. Ok so you might be knowing that when USA was asked to sign the Kyoto protocol (regarding carbon emission), the erstwhile US administration refused doing so. Recently I have written an article on “Future of Dollar Hegemony”, in which I have quoted a few experts and economists saying that this present recession, which popped up on the surface during the last quarter of 2008 in USA because of the unproductive and excessive exploitation and consumption of resources, has put a big question mark on its future. It is so because the nature itself has mounted a suffocative control over the consumption of US society. I hope you are getting my wave length. So its nature which keeps control over the extremes. Even consuming meat has also put a massive threat on the extinction of a number of species and as a result has severly hit the ecological balance worldwide. Kahne ki jaroorat nahin “agar hum marenge to tum bhi nahin bachoge.” Let me quote some statistics here in support of this argument:
1. An estimated 30% of the earth’s ice-free land is directly or indirectly involved in the production of livestock for meat, generating 18% of green house gas emissions- more than the means of transport around the world. That is why researchers at Chiago University suggest that going vegan is one of the most effectine ways to combat global warming.
2. The study of medical science has suggested that eating meat increases the risk of carciogenic growth of tissues, as human body is not meant for animal protein to stay healthy.
3. All carnivores you might have noticed that they drink water by licking it (example of all felids) while herbivores drink water by sicking it. and further needless to add how do you drink water-by licking or by sucking.
Finishing my argument here by your kind permission and waiting for the next post to share.
Bye till then.
Yours
Pradeep

Hi

I would like to add to your ‘Vegeterianism’

I refer to your Nuance #2.
The more the sense organs an animal has, the more pain/joy the animal can have – Naturally

Our ’shastras’ classify animals from ‘ek-indriya’ to ‘panch-indriya’
It means those who have 5 sense organs they feel more. Hence we do eat Vegetation -which is a living thing. But does not have 5 sense organs.

Raising of such food grains is for killing eventually. But we have to do it to live.

As human being we try to ‘economize’ on pain given to others for our food.

Dairy is not killing but is cruelty. we snatch away food of baby cow/buffalow.

Again we tie them onto a place for rest of their life. use them and kill them when they are not good for milk

Rasnidhi Desai

Dear Obiagwu

PLEASE DON”T TURN THIS FORUM AGAINST ANY RELIGIONS. PLEASE. CHRISTIANITY IS A GREAT RELIGION SO IS OTHER RELIGIONS.

PLEASE REFRAIN MAKING “DISTORTED” STATEMENTS.

Dear Prerna,

I find such philosophy very hypocrite. Something like American style who make bomb to kill hundred, drop bomb to kill thousands but try to prove that they care for a single life of a bird. This is hypocrisy at highest order.

You care for animal but you (most probably you are an Indian) don’t care for Muslims. When Muslims were killed & raped & tortured in Gujarat, what you did? Muslims are lower grade creation than your animals? What about the low cast people in India? Are not they human being in any standard? Why they live so miserable life in there? Is life of an animal worth more than a human being?

Better be kind to human being without trying to separate them in terms of race, age, gender etc. Then you think for other animals. Do care the basic first, then the ornamentation.

Rgds
Jamal

i hate vegetables

Prerna

Vegetarianism is fine as a choice but no one should claim its supeiority on moral grounds. One may also choose to avoid meat on health grounds. I believe in the principle “Jeevo Jeevasya Jeevanam” (One life has to end to provides sustenance to another life.) I would like to make a few points:

1: You destroy life if you cut out a plant. You are also killing many organisms very time you breathe in and out.

2. All bodies contain living micro-organisms that die and make way for new ones.Bodyin order to eat meat, we must prematurely end the life of the animals we eat.

Regards,

Dr Satish Desai OBE

let me ask you one simple question, What happens to all the animals if we all become vegetarian.
Regards
Richard

@Satish

Yes I agree with you Morality has no link with being vegetarian.

God gave humanity permission to eat meat after the Flood (Genesis 9:3). In the Old Testament law, the nation of Israel was commanded to not eat certain foods (Leviticus 11:1-47), but never commanded against eating meat. Jesus declared all foods, including all kinds of meat, to be clean (Mark 7:19). As with anything, each Christian should pray for guidance as to what God would have them eat. Whatever a person decides to eat is acceptable to God as long as we thank Him for providing it (1 Thessalonians 5:18). 1 Corinthians 10:31 declares, “So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God.”

@Richard
Answer to your question of what happens to all animals if we all become vegetarian

1. One snake eat other snake(Small one) as food. I am sure you agree with me

2. Most fish eat fish themsleves, I am sure you agree with me.

3. When a animal dies, thousands of living being eat his/her meat(Dogs, Birds all).

4. In self sustained ecological system, in one way or another, animals survive either eating grass or meat or each others.

I AM VEG AND SEE NO LINK BETWEEN MORALITY AND BEING VEG. SAME WAY I SEE NO LINK BETWEEN BEING RELIGIOUS AND MORALITY.

Naddu

I wish to share some of Methane Related Reserach with you. Send me an email at

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Dear Naddu,
For the last three days i have been unable to access yaari. so all the comments after the reply to ur instinctive flesh one are not mine. Though those fake responses are true to my feelings. I do ask u for ur hand(and body and soul) in marriage. Though it would do with me if u just give ur body.And ur joke was a really good one.ha ha ha. I would remember that. I agree it may be one of the reasons. Before giving ur answer, i do once again remind u of my credentials. 5′8”, unemployed, more than often penniless, and still eats at the most expensive of places whenever he has a penny or two. You have to pick my bills after marriage. But i can assure u all the pleasure in life. Physiological as well as psyhological.Take care love ankur

TO NADDU ON TERRORISM, SEX, LOVE ETC…..
This week in the eonomist Danny Rodrick has written the most foolish piece on regulation in international finance. He is one of the more famous professors of the Harvard. So names dont guarantee wisdom. You have to see for yourself that is the report right in its conclusions and inferences. Regardless of who has written it. I also dont have a good image of Alan Kruger. His reports are more of a gimmick to attract attention. One of his earlier studies said that when the state of Florida increased the minimum wage levels substantially from Fedral levels, fast food joints in Florida actually increased their hiring!!!
Naddu terrorism is a direct consequence of fanaticism. Suppose Prerna becomes a vegetarian fanatic, she too will turn a terrorist. Most terrorists nowadays are religious fanatics. .
The leaders of terrorist groups almost always come from educated, prosperous bakgrounds. They hire mercenaries from poor background to execute their planning for money. This is the kind of terrorism that u see in Kashmir.But suicide bombers are not driven by money. Obviously their incentive is not money. I hope u can see that point for yourself even if Allan Kruger writes otherwise. Islamic terrorism uses suicide attackers. Who are driven by fanaticsm and not money. They know that after death they would leave the money behind.
Please Naddu there is not a single terrorist organisation that has risen as a result of poverty You have to realize that running a terrorist organization is a very expensive business. You need expensive machine guns.Poverty definitely cannot do that.
Humiliation also cannot explain terrorism . Except in case of Palestine militant outfits like Hezbollah.
Naddu i have realized that u dont understand sex and sexuality. You are intelligent and well read. But u cannot reach the peak of intelligence if u dont understand sex. Because it is the source from which everything comes. Marriage where sexual loyalty is an implicit condition , is the biggest form of sexual repression, That a muslim sheikh fucks his wife 100 times or fucks his ten wifes 1000 times doesn’t mean he is sexually fulfilled. Sexual expression comes from an attitude of deep acceptance about sex. When sex has no guilt feeling attached to it. When it is no longer a sin that has to be repent later by a holy trip to Mecca or Kashi. Only then can one become sexually expressed. Then one doesn’t have to fuck 10000 times. A few hard fucks like those in American triple X movies is more than enough. So its better that we show our children those movies than teaching them foolish moral science.
You can start by reading Nancy Friday’s Women On Top. Highly educative and highly enjoyable. Or u can marry me and foot my bills .And i will teach u all about sex and sexuality.
Fanaticism is inversely proportional to sexual expression.
Lastly i think that we fuck first then we fall in love. I would sleep with anybody to get loved than to love somebody to take her to bed. Take care. With love and lust.ankur.

TO KAMRAN KHATRI AND DR. ZAKIR NAIK,
Kamran tell me. If were to die how would you prefer. Would u prefer that somebody first cuts your hand, then the veins of your neck and then your blood vessels and let all the blood flow out. And let u die u a slow death. Or would you prefer a quick death in one cut so that u die immediately….think about it and dont ask Dr. Naik his opinion on that. The Islamic way of halaal is definitely more cruel.
Dr Zakar Naik is a parrot who repeats and remembers the dead words of Koran pretty well. He is illiogical and anti-woman. He propogates the Wahabi interpretation of Islam. That Taliban and the likes support. He is dangerous for the modern society.take care.love ankur.

Dear Ankur,

thank you for your proposal, I´m feeling flattered. Thank you also for offering lessons regarding sex and sexuality, I believe I can´t learn anything from you in this field when considering our age difference, 20 years higher experience, and my pretty liberal and free upbringing.
I also have the feeling you confuse love and lust. The main reason of sexuality is to implant and keep our DNA, our genes, this helps the human race to reproduce and sustain. By nature we decide for an appropriate match that looks promisingm and similar in many ways. You cannot endlessly do that, because you have a responsibility to feed and grow what you self-seed.
Further I don´t believe that a financially impotent, but physically temporarily (male gender is infact disadvantaged in this case) potent alpha-male (you) could impress a financially potent and sexually endlessly potent (advantage of the female gender) alpha-female. (me)
Unlike Madonna, I don´t need to adopt or keep a Jesus or any other naughty brat to maintain my sexlife. And what would my highly developed community, husband,daughters and my lover think of me would ask them for permission to sponsor an intelligent, witty, horny Pakistani?;-) lol
Love and trust is priceless my dearest, you can´t buy it.
Strange, what´s going wrong in your country? We people in the west first fall for each other before we share the same bed. Falling for each other doesn´t mean falling into the same bed! I think you have mistaken the sense of the word “falling”! lol

Have a nice Sunday!
greetings,
Naddu

@ankur — i apologize that we had to take yaari down temporarily, but we are working on launching a new and improved design so hopefully you will enjoy it better now! regarding your point about converting animal farms to agricultural farms — meat production actually requires more farming than vegetable production does, and is much more damaging to the environment, because of all the grain, water, etc that is required to feed the livestock. here’s a wikipedia article for more info on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_vegetarianism

Having dairy products does not involve the ending of the creature’s life. It is not in the scale of sacrifice. Many human mothers wet-nurse another baby.

So stop beating yourself about ‘dairy’.

Meat does not matched you because you were born with fresh vegetables and Roti .Your parents are vegeterians.And at least in India, people adore cows and beef.It is forbidden for Indian to eat meat.If you come in Europe ,you can vegetables ; you are not obliged to eat meat.That is my point of view.Bye

Vegitable and plants also have life, the only difference between an animal and veggie is that animal looks like us, vegitables does not. when veggie cries, we do not listen, our ears are half deaf. When we enhail air we kill millions of tiny becteria, that also have life. When we walk we kill thousands of ants and animals we can not see, but their voice is unheard.

Think about it and pass.

excuse me even plants do hv a life.they cn move.grow.n even they die.so ppl who r vegetarian shuold bs punish severly.coz they eat the weaker ones.[plants compared with animals].coz when u kill a dum or a deaf one the punishment will be mre coz u killed a innocent one ok.do u get it.so think wisely n do eat meat for certain extend.bt dont eat every animal coz u get d characteristic of them in u so select d best one n eat.

thanks if u read this

Hi gupta,

since last month I became a vegetarian please forward this kind of mails to me

Thanks
mahen

Dear Prerna,
I am an pure vegetarian Indian and I also strongly support vegetarianism. It is glad to know that one more number is increased towards vegetarianism. There is a saying ” jaisa khaye Anna waisa hoye Mann ” that means your character will built according to your food habit.
Thanks and Good Day.

Dear Prerna Gupta,

I’m vegetarianism but now we not enough foods for supply with us due to economy dropped and we now don’t have jobs now,hope you can give a little support me or donate some money to help us.Thanks.

Regard,
Tan Kean Boon

good

You could have even avoided the question of morality. There is a basic difference between animal fats and vegetable fats as well as proteins. One of the reasons of increased Alzheimer’s in the West is a suspicion of what animal fats do in the long run to the brain microcirculation. the same for proteins, that constitute neurotransmitters in the brain. It may finally contribute to the extent and programming of this supercomputer.

Kohli

a very gud thought of being vegetarian
keep it up

Dear Prerna,
Thank you a million times for that blog on veggie culture,which is becoming more and more popular by the day.I belong to a community of vegetarians and so I do not take it.the non veggies eat it possibly because they think it will make them strong!
Not true in reality.look at the elephant for a classic instance!
Congratulations dear for being a well educated woman!.
If you are interested to know more about how I and my community mmebers live ,please wit till my first English novel titled LEST… comes out!
Love,Dr Sadasivan.

thankyou for sharing your moral dillemma
it is without doubt the most self persuasive argument raised.

the morality you so aptly describe ia an illusary consruct
like many other nature nurture debates but not well written.

Thanks for ur blog,
The idea expressed are quite honest and pracically acceptable. U must be aware of the saying One mans’food is other man’s poison, secondly if people turn more towards veg, would there not be unbalanced and abrupt demand for vegitables? Shortages would lead to increase in prices of vegitbales n dairy products, on the other hand population of animals like goat, sheep, ox, buffaloes, etc would increase manifold thereby managing them would lead to space shortages and to keep them alive they are to be fed with grass and fodder and water, So extra increase in demand for their food and what not.

so this is a natural cycle of self balancing provided by our nature.
lets not disturb it.
Adil Palia.
surat.

Its Good!!!! at least you realize. I am happy you are Veg.

Dear Prerana,
My experience in the matter should be like that of parents. The place and time, I grew up, it was unthikable to have non-veg and alcohol for any so called high cast person.During my enginnering days, I tried hard to start non-veg food.
Everytime, I felt like vomitting and stopped after a few attempts.
( Fortunately, I faced no such problems for the other item)
When my sons were growing–now 34 and 32, My wife and me took special care that they start eating everything since childhood. Apart from restaurants (which were not upto the mark in the area), we used to get friends to prepare their likings during common dinners.
Now, they are quite at home for any type of food and can relish most of it and take care to remove their fritzes if we are around for a few days.
I see the issues as–
1.there can not be enough food if all becomes veggies. I think there will not be more than 5% vegs around.
2.Most of the health and infection problems are imaginary as there is hardly any pocket in the world where all are veg. Life expectancy and general health standards are far better in the world where people are not aware of vegetariansim.
3.the whole world of animals is surviving on predator concept and we can not change it.
But inspite of beleiving it, I have a problem.
I can see one vast tract of marshy land from my bed room. There are lot of pigs breeding there and look beautiful playing and roaming ( from the distance and height at least)
Once in a while some lads come and trap a pig or two to take them away.
I feel bad and think them as thugs as illogical as it sounds.
Laxmi P Singhania

living organism*

TO NADDU,PLEASE I AM AN INDIAN AND NOT PAKISTANI,
naddu i am an indian and not pakistani….i always fantasize about doing with older woman..Cougars excite me….Sex in humans is not for reproduction only. In animals it is so. Thats why animals unlike humans feel the sexual urge only for a few days in the year. This is known as the rut. Humans don’t have anything like the rut. They feel the secual urge for the whole year. Sex also has the larger purpose. It serves as a vehicle to enlightenment. Sex with awareness does the same thing that meditation does..The same thing Lord Shiva told Parvati in the Vigyan Bhairav tantra of Shiv Purana…Think about it..20 years is not a big difference for me…Since u r financially well-off and i am financially ruined off the package suits me even more..Think about it…And you are absolutely right that a human life or better karma isn’t only related to food habits….I dont belong to any religion….But you beware…
You are a muslim .But that doesn’t give u the right to hurt the feelings of the hindus by calling their gods monkey gods…And what about Prophet Mohammede. His ascending the heaven on his horse..Any comments on him or his horse ..take care..love ankur.

@Naddu
What you wrote is 100% true. Most disheartening about India is: Exponential Progress and Expoenetial Social Down Grading. I have worked recently for few years there. It is shocking.

1. Depression and hence sexual activty among young people has crossed all limits. Anti depresant consumption is highest in India among working class. Also Exploitation of poor and needy girls(including ladies) has become a way of life.

2. If some one is dieing in the middle of road, no one comes to help.

3. Arragancy is way of life. Try to drive by rule, you get abused by almost all drivers.

4. Me First and my family is last. All benefits must start with me and end with my family. THIS IS THE BASIC ATTITUDE.

IT IS DISGUSTING. REALLY DIGUSTING.

@Denzel

Morality and Philosophy’s are for those who have spare time, a common person is busy making his/her living.

*visions about sexual adventures… (blunder blunder, sorry lol )

thanx prerna 4 superb message

Dear
is it really that complex issue??
U eat veg or non veg ,it creates a wholly non veg body [ made of ani,mal cells].Whether u like it or not ,
u harbour so many living bodies ; inside or outside it; which either suck ur blood or live on ur efforts ,
anyway ur body supports nonvegetarian living beings in a way practises nonvegtarianism .Ur ignorance about it
no justification of its practice.Some of them kill u slowly or symbiotically ,but die u must for them.

Basically vegetarianism was born out of Indian Protestant [Bihari Buddhists or jains to start with] religion as a reaction
to indian catholicism [Aryanism / brahmanism ] from north west hence it’s less of moral issue than political !!

Consciousness–R u sure what it is?
Its nothing more than large symbolic processor with eqally large memory .How much large depends on further lab experiments
In fact that background of so called awareness is a brain dopamine [neurotransmitter] availability status indicator .Less avalibilty means less feeling of awareness. U r just a chemical being apart from above definition !!

SOMETHING SHOULD BE FOR NEXT MEETING IF U WISH
SINCERELY

aNSGYNABTECH

TO NADDU,
honey i never said that u r old. I am 23 and you are 20 years older than me. That means you are 43. And women in the age group of 40-50 have been found to be sexually most active. In comparison to younger woman. Also woman as they grow older bloom completely.
On what basis can you say that sex is primarily for reproduction. Its your assumption. And honey assumption is the mother of all screwups.
Sorry , I thought u were a muslim. But the way you justify terrorism and your anti-sex attitude made me think that u were from the Taliban heartland.
I agree with your comments on eating meat. i too enjoy beef, pork and salami besides potatoes and lady-finger.
I am sure that with my brain and determination i would manage my life. If not u then i would find some other financially well-off older woman to take care of me. But the offer is still open for you. Take care. With my love and lust. ankur.

Dear Ankur,

to remind you to your Biology lessons, though I assume a sexual education doesn´t happen at all at schools in India. The first thing that was registered as sex ever happened between fungis. A fungus has neither brain nor emotions, nor would it be able to make a move at all, it just grows and reproduces. The official definition of sex: either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.>the fact of belonging to one of these categories >the group of all members of either sex. 2 sexual activity, specifically intercourse.
Your interpretation of the word sex is just a possibility, hence, as you can see, my interpretation is based on another one. I suppose you have been thinking about various derivatives. Could it be possible that you were assuming, not me?
I don´t justify terrorism and never will. Terrorism isn´t meant to be, will never be justified at all. I don´t follow an anti -sex attidue, it is a pro-sex attitude, but as I stressed, I do also have some other hobbies and pleasures in my life, sex is just one of them.
May I give you an advice? When you are in a dilemma, don´t wait for others to resolve it for you.
To be successful and achieve something in life, you don´t only need a brain, you also need the will to reach a goal. But this won´t happen by sitting in front of a computer, thinking about your destiny or any solution. Why don´t you start using your hands otherwise, beside bothering a keybord or apart from activating your family jewels? lol
Ever thought about jobbing? That´s the way life works dearest!
Thank you for your kind offer, I´m content with my life.

Have a sexy day!
Naddu

Dear Mr Rajeev Patil,

thank you for your fantastic elaboration. A human body is a buildup kept or destroyed by various living microorganisms.
You are correct, when a human confuses religion with politics it only harms humanity.

Thank you for your clear comment, I enjoyed it.

Kind regards,
Naddu

Great article

Dear Prerna,

I think you are a learned STUPID!! Before thinking about killing the ANIMALS for FOOD, you shuld be thinking about thousand of African-Middle Eastern-Asian HUMAN BEING,slaughtered/killed by the so-called “First-World” white people, in order to continue their dominence, comfort and luxury.

A very popular comment among the worst effected african region is ” before they send Foods and Peace-kepping Force, they sold us Arms & ammunitions and spread hatered among our tribes, just to get our Dimonds, minerals or Oil”

So, Please dont FOOL yourself by how an Animal is killed (in order to supply nutritions to those Human-Killers), but concentrate on the Human Being it self, which may present you a beautiful world with peace and harmony.

Thanx,
Aziz

Dear Prerna

It is very nice to hear that you are now vegetarian.

Vegetarian food is very good for health, yoga and spiritual development.

Thanks

CA M. R. Gupta

Dear Friend,
Zindabad.
Thanks for your blog which is very useful.
Yours sincerely,
Pravat Kumar Sahoo

morality of eating is to serve the community who are producing it. Think of them if you don’t eat. They no longer have faith in your capability and they no longer want to employ you. The govt. no longer can amend law that can benefit those communities.
Everything is going down and down. U r angry and suffer drastic fall in the per capita income and the world is devoid of greenness because of excessive veggies.

I can’t imagine a world without people.

Thanks.

Dear Prerna
Animals can be classified as carnivores, omnivores or herbivores on some basic biological facts.
1. Carnivores have generally a single stomach and cannot digest cellulose which is a basic part of vegetable matter (herbivores have upto four stomachs to digest cellulose and enzymes to digest it
2. The eyes of carnivores are basically binocular i.e. set in the front of the face so as to give a 3d view in order to hunt prey. Vegetarians have bulging eyes on both sides of the head so as to mantain 360 vision for protection from carnivores
3. The food cycle would be severely disturebed in case of non consumption of herbovores and lead to overgrazing and disruption of the food chain.
Please apply your brains and not some airy-fairy farts peddled by some eggheads in yale or stanford to come to a conclusion-they simply dont wash just like laissez faire capitalism
regards
Wasif

It is very nice .
I was always searhing this type of material to convince my friends

You are right.

I agree with you and would like to only eat vegetables.

Thanks,

ian

Hey Prerna
Once again enjoyed reading your mail. Only thing that makes sense in this article is your belief. Once you are possesed by a belief you don’t need scientific rationale. These facts merely help strengthen or weaken the belief.

Well keep enjoying the low fat dairy milk and protect your feet with leather shoes….until your belief changes.

Atul

Thank you prena

Good article Prerna – Keep it up

Jai

i like the your blog (The morality of vegetarianism).i myself a vegetarian.this is our culture or our religion whch tells the the importance of vagetarian.as talk about leather goods mostly this type of leather made by the dead animals.so dont be hesitate about thir uses.

Dear Prerna,
woh! Really its very nice. Keep me posting of this kind of very useful info’s. Definetly i will share it with my friend of this facts.

With love,
Chandru.

Thanks prerna for sharing a very good experience (fact) of life .

No one on this earth can survive without killing others. Plants are also living things, it’s different that we cant hear their growls and cry. Liking and disliking is totally a different question, but if you say I don’t eat because we are just killing a life then forget it without killing you can’t survive. Killing a one eyed or a lame man than a healthier man doesn’t reduce the crime, but here we are not at all doing a crime as the Lord Almighty has created us like that only. Nowadays being a vegetarian has become a fashion, the one who converts and starts saying to people wants to prove that how humble I have become now. “I don’t kill ANIMAL nowadays. Like a person who remains in A/C just stars starts saying it’s too hot in other’s place, why keeping shut would have been the best example but he or she wants to hear everyone that he or she has an A.C at his place.

Jawaid Waqar

@Sahil Amir

Regarding PIG Meat. Jewish also don;t eat PIG meat. It is religious and does not need any clarification. Same goes with Beef and Horse Meat.

Have you ever seen any Christian eating Horse Meat ?.

So eating and not eating one type of meat(PIG, BEEF or HORSE MEAT) is pure religious mater and does not need any discussion. RELIGION IS A PURE PRIVATE MATER.

I am a vegetarian, have been all my life. I ate meat once and that was more than enough. My children eat meat, not red meat. But they also have their vegetarian food.

Once, while living in Switzerland (I do live outside of India), I went for initiation into Kriya Yoga. Great grand nephew of Parmahansa Yogananda was holding the classes.

My wife and I met him the evening before. We got into a discussion on vegetarianism. Both my wife and I are vegetarians, the swamiji is not, eats fish only – that is one of the things that came out in our discussion.

Next day the classes started and some introduction after each session. The swamiji said, being vegetarian is simply not about the act of not eating meat. It is also about how you control your mind, how clean are your thoughts and how you conduct yourself with other human beings.

While saying, all of this, he did not once look at me but the meassage was understood. He had said all that is so relevant and so apt.

Mahatma Buddh ate meat , and yet he was a self realised soul within 6 years of having started yoga.

I still do not like eating meat.

Yes, there is cruelty in killing animals. And it is important to look after animals. Yet we have humans killing humans all the time. We have had slavery and we still have slavery.
50% of the population on this planet is lucky to get one full meal a day, yet there is enough to feed 3 times the population at present. 10% of the world’s population consumes 86% of the planet’s resources (of course they are in the west).

Yes, so we get a few books to tell us how bad things are for the animals. Things are a not much better for 3000 million people. And another 2000 million live on US $2 dollars a day. All in the developing world. Meat is out of their reach. Most meat is eaten in the west, and they can write their books to ease their guilt, absolutely, they can. But there is a lot more to be feeling guilty about.

So, Ms Prerna, I take your point. But there is a lot worse going on in the world. Please put it in perspective.

If you are going to publish my piece on your blog, publish the whole lot or not at all. (I remeber you edited and published excerpts from my response on your drinking piece).

Best Regards

@Aussie

You are the bestest.

TO NADDU,
hi honey, how r u. dear i read in my biology that there are two types of production. Sexual and asexual. And fungi reproduces asexually. I think u should recheck it in ur biology books.
But if u dont believe in the ecstasy of human sex give me a chance to take u on those ecstatic planes.
One of the reasons i write is to raise the consciousness of my fellow human beings. To stir them out of their sleeps. But u would not wake up from your sleep.And look from ur own eyes. Or like ur friend Aussie. Who still cannot see a plain simple thing. That all organised religions r a threat to unity. He would continue repeating like parrot that all religions are beautiful. Inspite of all the bloodshed.
Honey go and buy Nancy Friday’s Women on Top. And also ”From Sex to Superconsciousness” by Osho, my master.
And i am asking for ur hand so that i can put my hand to some productive work. So reconsider my offer. You can reply at my personal ids chandraaa@rediffmail.com or achandraaa@gmail.com. Take care. love ankur.

Dear Laxmi Singhania

Well, thanks for the wonderful contribution. However, when I last checked the definition of Morality: It has no link with being Veg or Non Veg.

Dear Ankur,

may I suggest you this book?
Sex in Fungi: Molecular Determination and Evolutionary Implications

Author: Editors: Joseph Heitman, Duke University Medical Center; James W. Kronstad, Michael Smith Laboratories; John W. Taylor, University of California, Berkeley; Lorna A Casselton, University of Oxford

About the book:
Sexual reproduction is ubiquitous in nature. As the engine that drives genetic diversity, sex accelerates adaptation and removes deleterious mutations. As such, it plays a central role in the origin and success of species. Studies on the major groups within the fungal kingdom have provided significant and wide-ranging contributions on the molecular bases by which sexual identity and reproduction are defined and controlled. Sex in Fungi: Molecular Determination and Evolutionary Implications not only encompasses the current state of knowledge, but also serves as an invaluable resource that will guide new research on these systems and organisms.
Since John Raper’s pioneering studies with the basidiomycetes in the 1960s, and the elegant work of Ira Herskowitz with Saccharomyces, genetic, molecular, and genomic analyses of fungal sexual reproduction have helped to illuminate how sexual cycles function in, as well as drive, evolution. The biological principles involved are profound and can serve as general paradigms for how cell identity is established and maintained, how cells sense and respond to extracellular cues, the role of genetic rearrangements in generating changes in cell identity and fate, and how genomic regions governing sexual identity are organized and evolved.

Drawing on the great advances made over the past 10 years, this volume provides illuminating insights into the molecular details of cell-type specification, mating-type switching, pheromone perception and signaling, and cellular and nuclear fusion. The tremendous impact of comparative genomics on the analysis of mating is evident in many of the chapters in this book. This volume includes chapters on both model and pathogenic fungi as well as a section that looks forward to what we hope to learn in other fungal lineages. The book concludes with a selection of chapters on the implications of sex, and studies of experimental evolution, in a broader evolutionary context.

Key Features

Offers a comprehensive examination of sexual determination and reproduction in an entire kingdom of life
Encompasses the current state of knowledge and also serves as a resource for the next several decades of research on these fascinating systems
Examines model organisms that are particularly amenable to genetic, molecular, and genomic analysis
Ties current knowledge to broader questions about sexual reproduction and evolution
Provides a paradigm to guide research into the mechanisms of mating in all of the fungi

Ankur, honey, I have the feeling you confuse sex with eroticism, a human ecstasy isn´t related to sex in biological sense!

I´m all awake
Naddu

NADDU, BRILLIANT HONEY U R BRILLIANT,
First i was ignorant when i said that reproduction in fungi is asexual. U r right. Its sexual. So sorry for that. That u can turn up such an informed response in such a short time. u r absolutely brilliant.
Naddu human beings are 99% animal and 1% consciousness. The different between u and a cat is that u know that u r a woman and a cat doesn’t know that she is a cat. Sex is the bridge between our animal being and our consciousness. Eroticism happens when we have a prayerful consciousness towards sex. A prayerful attitude towards sex.
And when we accept sex we also accept our animal being. In that acceptance we are transformed from dog to god.
I also think that sex in humans is unique. Unlike in animals or fungi it is not limited to reproduction only. So u can say that sex in humans extends far beyond sex in fungi. It has far reaching implications than reproduction. Biology is at fault when it classifies sex in humans along with sex in other organisms.It is the bridge from material to divine. From dog to god.
Hey honey i think we r diverting from the main subject. I want the answer to my offer. take care.my love and lust.

see doctor zakir naik’s dailog with an indian( i have forgotton his name) on the topic ” is non-veg is permited or prohibited” may be it will help u out of removing this misconception abt not to eat meat.
bye
takecare

I am started to eating meat after 10 years.

dear prerna.
good job.i m a jain i.e by birth veggy.but apart i m a doctor.medically now adays we have come across many diseases directly or indirectly caused by the non veg food (piles, obesity, cancer, etc).the only harm being pure veggy is u go deficient with vit b 12 but it can be simply taken care by having vit b12 (methylcobalamine)oral tab or injections once a month.being veggy gives u calm body calm mind and healthy life .PHILOSOPHICALLY SPEAKING if have a look across the region where maximum meat is eaten u will find some or the other natural disaster or social instability or cruelty of thought/ mind etc always.similarly u have alook at people or community or region who consume only veg u will surely find them good at brain,bussiness and socialy very sound and peaceful.

Hi, i read your article. i like it how you write and you make an analise. But i am not a vegetarian and maybe i will not be. i like very much vegetables and i eat very much but some times i feel desire to eat some chiken or some shaorma or some hamburger. I dont eat very often all this but i think my body need it some times and then i have desire. yeah maybe you have all time enogh money to buy just vegetables who are bio maybe you are right but i cant have all time just fresh vegetables and bio and good things. In my country this is a very expensive diet.

people go and ea

so if eat an indian student here what happend here maybe few people can explain he cannot eat because it is kind of meat he dont have allowed to eat. And i think human body needs some meat not exagerate or what make all and waste a lot and who killed animals just think at business and like all chiken has taste of fish because all give some proteins and some of fish bones to increase and become good for sell.
and another aspect it is health and yeah just look at women who are vegetarian if they not have more days hemorogy when are in special days of month like menstrual time than woman who dont have a vegetarian diet and this because need some from meat.

IT IS VERY TRUE THAT WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO KILL ANIMAL .THEY HAVE THERE OWN LIFE.

UTTAM LORHA

Hello Prema,

only one question in mind, that is do you think plants are not living matter? if no then your theory might be understand able, but I think plans are living, because they grow they multiply and they need oxygen etc etc.
Because they do not make any noises and they can not show their feeling it does not mean we can eat them, thinking that they are not living, what do you think,
TXS
Tarique Mahmood

Hi Prerna,

I want to respect you intectuality. You have deep knowledge in various issues. Thank you a lot.

Buddha

Dear Muhammad Mubeen

Muhammad this is what you wrote “Sory Brother V R Muslims and v eat every thing that is allowed by Allah Taalah”

Islam is a great religion but Please don;t use Allah Taalah’s name for your Taste and Pleasure.

Human beings are basically omnivores, if you take it from the biological perspective. Every human being has the ability to digest meat, simple enough reason to understand that we are all non-vegetarians by nature. And that is how we started our race in evolution. That said, vegetarianism is only a constraint brought about by further morality in effect of sixth sense.

I am vegetarian myself, like you, but only by principle. I do not have problems in eating meat and in fact, I believe humans play an important role in the food chain balance by eating meat!

And when it comes to inflicting pain and environmental issues, what doesn’t cause them, save alone non-vegetarianism? Having a dog chained to our house, and exposing it to noise waves from TV (that we can’t hear, dogs can) causes much pain to a dog, how much ever we cuddle it. Every bird craves for freedom and caging them is scientifically proved to bring about depression in them. Non-vegetarianism only gives us a feeling of causing more pain by killing animals, but the fact is that we do a lot of worse things unknowingly!

Atleast eating meat is justified by the biological phenomena, unlike other injustices to animals.

Dear ankur..I’m quite busy these days n am unable to access yaari that often but I’ve got a question for u..do u hate every religion that much or is it Islam only..? I have sensed that u strongly resent islam and muslims…
it is not good for just anyone to trust on one’s abilities to judge everything so quickly that much..

you have probably got a copy of holy quran..u read it n u think that u dont need any explanation of the verses which even moderate muslims like us need n r unable to understand because things have changed a lot with the passage of time..u read it, make ur own interpretation n feel as confident as u’ve written the book urself..the style of ur writings always show ur unneeded confidence..

As u’d once mentioned urself its an ancient book..things in those times were different..this verse doesn’t imply that u r allowed to have intercourse with every female servent u’ve got..ofcourse it is prohibited in islam to have sex with ur femals servants or any other women except ur own wife..
it has been said about the female war prisoners who used to b left alone after the battle..to support them, males of the society were asked to take care of those ladies n perhaps that’s why were also allowed to have sex with them n have kids with them..because they had no future otherwise..n lets admit who would like to give war prisoners back when ur own men,women n children r in the imprisonment of the opposite side..those kids were equal in every sense to the kids of their own wife..atleast it is a lot better to give a woman a home or any such status rather then killing them as the other barbarians of that time used to do..
I’m just trying to disseminate the information I had on this topic nothing else..

Slavery was very common in that time especially in saudi arabia untill islam emerged n ended the tradition..no sex slaves or any such thing is allowed in this religion..as I’d already mentioned talibans have altered n distorted the impression of islam very much by pretending that whatever they do is on the basis of islam not on the basis of their violent nature.. no wonder that a lot people misjudge islam beause of the modern impression of it created by extremists like talibans..

one could have insisted on giving the women back n not even trying to have sex with them, to their families when the other party of the battle would also have agreed on giving the families of the earlier party back too..but ofcourse neither of them ever did that…n so horrible as this fact is i wonder who knows if the other party would have treated the women of the earlier party even worse..?
take care..love..
madeeha

According to me it does not matter what goes in your mouth, what matters the most is what comes out of your mouth, your thoughts and actions should be right.

We all are creation of God and we should look beyond religion and eating habits.

I love kissing. In public or out of it. So, I simply can’t be objective about this. I am biased and as a person with a personal agenda in this matter, excused.

Hi prerna,

As i had read your blog, i too find it uncomfortable to have nonvegetarian food since last 2-3 months.
Even i am now having vary odd feeling for these kinda foods and drinks too.

I like the way your explanation on being a vegetarian now i will also try.
Thanking you.

dear prerna,
i was a meatlover till i read this message , you helped me to change my mind.
thanks a lot.

best wishes and regards
Rajesh Talwar

to all the persons who is reading this,
can anyone tells what is the difference between animal and plant,i think no difference because they both have cells in them and which are living cells.
Eating a plant is also like the same as eating the animal. The difference is only the
plants they dont move but still they too are living.
Think of this.

Dear Prerna,

Yours is one of the well-written articles about the merits of vegetarianism. You have made your points very cogently. There will always be many schools of thought on a subject such as this. Yet it is important for us to state our views with clarity so that like-minded people can benefit. This you have done commendably. Congrats.

One can argue for or against vegetarianism or for or against flesh-eating by quoting from health sources, or religion, lives of Mahatmas, or what have you. Yet it is important to remember that it is our own life that we are talking about after all. It is important to think for oneself and feel the sensitivity. It is important to make the right choices and not be misled by the force of arguments.